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Old 06-27-2017, 03:55 PM
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I'm on a budget indeed and will stay with my 900p 17' laptop from year 2008 , instead of throwing and wasting 2000-3000 euros away for the 17' 4K laptop I wanna.

Also, I will buy 4K Sony Xperia XZ Premium Don't be jealous here

And I will never ever use anything lower than 4K monitor, Full HD is now a thing of the past. And let's be grateful to all the people who with their hard work make the 4K experience possible, and let's thank God for 4K.

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Why not very serious? A couple of use cases:
1. If you're on a budget, it's a very nice screen for graphic artists that need to edit beyond sRGB. Properly profiled, you can get it to display enough Adobe RGB palette to matter.
2. Going further, with a 4x6 raster font on a sufficiently large FHD screen (40" and beyond), you can fit 480x180 characters on the screen (which translates to 42 standard terminal 80x25 windows, maybe 35 if you want to fit a big border between them).
Even on a smaller screen (like 27"), you can use a 6x8 raster font and fit 20 terminals on one screen.
3. Gaming on a full HD 27" screen is nice enough and doesn't need as many resources as 4K. More importantly, if you're playing an action game, you can't even appreciate the extra detail (notice how otherwise, dynamic quality reduction touted by AMD recently would not be acceptable).
4. Watching movies in full HD is going to be nicer on a resolution-matched screen. Upscaling doesn't improve the quality of the source material. Sure, broadcast TV is dreadful, and upscaling can help with some artifacts. But it won't fix poor image quality and a properly mastered movie is not going to look better upscaled.
5. Most home PC use is going to be more than enough on a full HD screen. A good quality full HD screen is going to be way ahead of one that you need to turn on scaling to be able to use.

And TN panels are bad. Sure, they've been touted as the future for years now. As soon as they fix all the disadvantages, they say. Meanwhile, discoloration is still rampant and anything wider than 16:9 and larger than 28" looks terrible. Even MVA/PVA panels are better, and still have no problems with refresh rates.

My Panasonic 50'' inch 4K TV is with MVA/PVA panel and it's one of the most gorgeous things I've seen.
In comparison, the IPS 23.8' AOC i2369Vm that I also have, is kind of crappy.

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Old 07-15-2017, 08:57 AM
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ASUS VP28UQG Gaming Monitor - 28 inch, 4K, 1ms, Adaptive-Sync/FreeSyncô, Flicker Free, Blue Light Filter

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28-inch 4K UHD (3840 x 2160) monitor for stunning photo-realistic visuals
Lightning-fast 1ms rapid response time and Adaptive-Sync technology for incredibly-smooth and fast gaming visuals
Extensive connectivity with DisplayPort1.2, HDMI(v2.0) x 2 for 4K UHD playback
ASUS-exclusive GamePlus with crosshair, timer, FPS counter, display alignment functions
T‹V Rheinland Certification for Flicker-free and Low Blue Light technology to ensure a comfortable viewing experience

Panel Size: Wide Screen 28"(71.12cm) 16:9
True Resolution : 3840x2160
Pixel Pitch : 0.16mm
Brightness(Max) : 300 cd/㎡
Contrast Ratio (Max) : 1000:1
ASUS Smart Contrast Ratio (ASCR) : 100000000:1
Viewing Angle (CR≧10) : 170į(H)/160į(V)
Response Time : 1ms (Gray to Gray)
Display Colors : 1073.7M (10bit)
Flicker free
https://www.asus.com/Monitors/VP28UQG/specifications/

I like these over 1 bln colours.
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Old 07-15-2017, 11:02 AM
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60 Hz. Blech.
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Old 07-15-2017, 12:30 PM
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60 Hz. Blech.
You don't have a graphics accelerator to force higher than 60FPS at 4K. 60Hz is perfectly fine for all applications except some first-person shooters...
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Old 07-15-2017, 12:35 PM
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freesync range is.... 40-60Hertz. It's a TN monitor.

It's DOA imho.
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Old 07-15-2017, 12:40 PM
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It is still better than anything Full HD, even if that is 1000Hz... lolz
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:01 PM
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You don't have a graphics accelerator to force higher than 60FPS at 4K. 60Hz is perfectly fine for all applications except some first-person shooters...
All the more reason that 4K makes no sense in such a small screen size.
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Old 07-19-2017, 02:04 AM
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BenQ, internationally renowned provider of digital lifestyle devices, introduced today SW271, a 4K UHD 27" monitor offering industry-standard HDR10 support and advanced color performance for photographers. Covering 99% of Adobe RGB, and 100% of both sRGB and Rec. 709, SW271 delivers the ultimate color accuracy of Delta E≦2 performance with its 10-bit IPS panel and advanced 14-bit 3D lookup table (LUT). "We are proud to present SW271, which joins our full line of professional monitors purpose-engineered for photographers," said Conway Lee, President of BenQ Corporation. "SW271 brings photo enthusiasts professional-grade performance, specialized tools, and advanced calibration for color-critical applications."

To display each color across its broad color gamut with perfect accuracy, SW271 utilizes an advanced 14-bit 3D LUT to achieve Delta E values of two or better. Technicolor Color Certified to meet strict color accuracy standards used in Hollywood and entertainment media, SW271's 10-bit 27" IPS panel delivers authentic colors as envisioned by content creators. Producing intense photographic realism and color depth by expanding the dynamic range between true darkness and high brightness, SW271 clearly displays high-resolution images from sophisticated DSLRs and other HDR source devices.

SW271's color characteristics can be customized via hardware calibration with X-Rite or Datacolor calibrators and BenQ Palette Master Element calibration software. Equipped with USB Type-CTM connectivity, SW271 utilizes a single cable for calibration and video transmission.

Adobe RGB, sRGB, as well as Black and White modes can be switched instantly via SW271's exclusive "Hotkey Puck". In addition, standard-equipment detachable shading hood blocks ambient glare for professional work in both portrait and landscape orientations, and GamutDuo Mode enables simultaneous picture-by-picture operation in two different color spaces, such as Adobe RGB and sRGB, or even in a black and white film effect.

SW271 is styled in understated functionality with height adjustability, an SD card reader, USB 3.1 (Gen 1), USB Type-CTM, HDMI 2.0, and DisplayPort 1.4 ports.

https://www.techpowerup.com/235296/b...-photographers

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Old 07-19-2017, 03:08 AM
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https://videocardz.com/blog/a-year-w...ltrahd-monitor

A year with 4K (UltraHD) monitor

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Last year I made a new purchase: Crossover 289K UltraHD monitor. Itís a Korean display with B-grade panel. This model is not even IPS or VA, just TN, but that was not a problem since at the time I was only planning to use it for reviews.
A year later I stopped using my old 1440p IPS panel altogether and now Iím only using this 4K monitor. In this blog entry, I will explain why.
Before I get into the topic, I do not recommend this Crossover 4K monitor, it has a lot of issues with full-screen resolutions.

Windows Applications at 4K
This post is not about my monitor, but about 4K monitors in general. The biggest concern about 4K monitors is the density of the pixels and windows scaling, especially on such Ďsmallí screens like Crossoverís (28-inch panel). Itís possible to use it at native***100% scaling, but the experience is just awful. For this screen size, 150% scaling is probably the best (comparable to 1440p at 27-inch).
I expected a lot of problems with manyyy applications that I use, but to be honest, I only had a problem with a few. In fact, I wouldnít even consider this a problem anymore. Window scaling just works and chances are you will not experience such issues (unless you are using some really old apps). This pixel density makes everything much more detailed, I simply love how great the fonts and icons look. Did I mention you can actually see more details from your DSLR with this resolution?
4K Gaming
When I bought this monitor there was only GTX 1080 on the market, the only 4K-capable graphics cards for modern games. There was no way it would be enough for Ultra settings though.***Only when GTX 1080 Ti came out I actually started enjoying 4K gaming at Ultra. Itís one of those things that change your gaming experience once and for all. This is when I completely stopped using my 1440p monitor.
When Iím doing my reviews I often go through all three resolutions: 1080p, 1440p and 2160p and I must say, I just canít imagine playing at 1080p anymore. 4K gaming gives you 4 times more pixels, more details, more fun. Itís like watching promotional 3D renders for games, only live.
4K gaming is not for everyone though. This is a new area in PC gaming. High-refresh rate 4K monitors are hard to find. If you are after competitive online gaming, 4K monitor is probably not for you. However, if you are (like me) after mind blowing image quality at the expense of the refresh rate, 4K is just you need.
Is 4K gaming expensive?
You donít need 1080 Ti for 4K, but you need a lot of VRAM. I had fun with GTX 1060 or RX 480 at this resolution, but with lower quality textures. It is not the same experience, but if I were to choose between 1440p Ultra or 4K High, I would go with the latter.
If everything goes according to the plan, the RX Vega should finally bring more competition to 4K gaming. It should actually push this enthusiast segment further. This is what Iím waiting for.
4K vs Ultrawide
We are at the crossroad of PC high-resolution gaming. The industry will either go 21:9 ultra-wide or 16:9 ultra HD. I wouldnít mind if both solutions would coexist, but the reality is that 4K monitors are simply cheaper while offering you more pixels. I have not really had the chance to test ultrawide monitor yet (and for me ultra-wide starts at 3840◊1600), so I will leave this open for discussion***and another blog entry.

My 1080p gaming ends at Angry Birds on my mobile. I consider myself a 4K gamer. Once you go 4K, itís hard to go back. Did you have the same experience?
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Old 07-19-2017, 02:35 PM
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I could probably live with windows lack of scaling ata 25-30" display for the ones which fail.
But 15.6" is sadly to small.
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