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Old 03-18-2017, 03:18 PM
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Britain was the first empire which used all their power in fight against slavery.
From Quakers and Wesley to Livingstone ...
This is true, the irony that we turned from slave masters to turning full circle and doing the right thing.
Many of the values of western countries were either innovated or propagated by britain through a two hundred year time span, even so called communist/dictator led/religeous countries that profess to hate the west are actually all part western, adopting many of the same ideals, aspirations and open market economic traits, many of these were propagated by the british, america later adopted that mantle when britains influence wained in the 1950s.
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Old 03-19-2017, 12:32 AM
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The Colonial expansion of Britain was not driven by Government policy until the East India Company mishandled things badly in India in 1857.

It was just private enterprise essentially.

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The Indian Rebellion of 1857 (also known as the Indian Mutiny) resulted in widespread devastation in India: many condemned the East India Company for permitting the events to occur. In the aftermath of the Rebellion, under the provisions of the Government of India Act 1858, the British Government nationalised the Company. The Crown took over its Indian possessions, its administrative powers and machinery, and its armed forces.

The Company remained in existence in vestigial form, continuing to manage the tea trade on behalf of the British Government (and the supply of Saint Helena) until the East India Stock Dividend Redemption Act 1873 came into effect, on 1 January 1874. This Act provided for the formal dissolution of the company on 1 June 1874, after a final dividend payment and the commutation or redemption of its stock.

The Times commented on 8 April 1873: It accomplished a work such as in the whole history of the human race no other trading Company ever attempted, and such as none, surely, is likely to attempt in the years to come.
Interestingly, The East India company's special treatment on Tea tariffs led to another shambles with the 1773 Boston Tea Party which inflamed the War of Independence with the US.

But this is ancient history now. Not much to do with any of us now alive. And I accept that the average person in Britain at this time really didn't live very well at all during this period.

Seems to me, that what we'd really be best doing is getting on with life. Doing stuff. Building things. Making things. Growing things. Our falling out with the EU must be despair at their tendency to just keep moving the furniture around. All this regulation, all these restrictions. I want to get on with things, not waste time attending courses on Health and Safety, race relations, environmental impact assessments. You name it.

We know this stuff, anyway. Well, at least, I do. Life is hard. And stupid ideas hold us back.
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