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Old 03-06-2012, 11:24 AM
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About VCE, zomg and DCO are probably right. The drivers went to SW developers. There's no reason to release the functionality to the public if there isn't any SW to access it.

About official driver, I believe Guild is right. If there's no competition, why rush the driver? Just polish it as much as you can. I was just expressing that this approach will, additionally, throw nvidia off.
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Old 05-12-2012, 04:42 AM
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Catalyst 12.4 is out (for some time now)
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownloa...downloads.aspx
Any sign of VCE 1.0 software, like AMD Video Converter?
Are they too embarrassed to show it?

They keep mentioning VCE in the specifications of new cards but not a single demo/benchmark out there.
Maybe this is dead silicon and we shouldn't talk about it until VCE 2.0
(as comparison NVENC had beta test results on day one of release.)
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Old 05-12-2012, 05:22 AM
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No signs. If Trinity reviews are up on 15th then there must be a press driver with VCE out, surely. I am expecting 12.5 to be the major driver that fixes all major bugs and enables all features. There's a leaked 8.97 that fixes a lot of issues but doesn't seem to have VCE enabled either.
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:07 AM
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Catalyst 12.4 is out (for some time now)
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownloa...downloads.aspx
Any sign of VCE 1.0 software, like AMD Video Converter?
Are they too embarrassed to show it?

They keep mentioning VCE in the specifications of new cards but not a single demo/benchmark out there.
Maybe this is dead silicon and we shouldn't talk about it until VCE 2.0
(as comparison NVENC had beta test results on day one of release.)

Careful, it keeps my 7750 from waking after sleep. Had to revert to 12.3.
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Old 05-16-2012, 02:34 AM
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...r,3202-15.html

Does this mean that VCE still doesn't work.
Since I see the same speed increase for llano using OpenCL.
Acrsoft: 3m15s vs 3m17s

Seeing the difference between Cyberlink and Arcsoft for QuickSync, 'support' doesn't really mean using it as it was supposed to be used.
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I don't see ArcSoft and Cyberlink has announced support for VCE at all.
So the argument "VCE still doesn't work" is not correct.

It's here but no one uses it, (hopefully) yet.
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Old 05-16-2012, 02:43 AM
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All these supposed VCE test look definitely like just OpenCL.

I don't think AMD would have bothered with VCE if it didn't actually improve on OpenCL... I am fully expecting NVENC / Quicksync like performance when they get VCE working, finally. It's quite ridiculous that we are half a year since the 7970 launch and there are no working drivers or apps.
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If one can get OpenCL transcoding working like QuickSync/NVENC performance with on par or even better image quality on powerful general-purpose hardware, why would you need dedicated fixed-function units to do the job? Don't forget you have a lot more goodies on OpenCL for video post-processing and fixes.

That's supposed to be the argument back then, when people critized about the fixed-function units for video decode. The same old "fixed-function unit vs. software on powerful general-purpose hardware" approach debate all over again.

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Old 05-16-2012, 05:11 AM
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http://techreport.com/articles.x/22932/8
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Both VCE and QuickSync appear to halve transcoding times... except the latter looks to be considerably faster. We didn't see much of a difference in output image quality between the two, but the output files had drastically different sizes. QuickSync spat out a 69MB video, while VCE got the trailer down to 38MB.
The first review that talks about this.
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:32 AM
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In encoding land that's a massive difference. Once again shows how poor all these reviews are. TR's review is pretty much on target but it's a total shame they are benching against QC Intels which cost 3 times as much.
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