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Old 12-25-2013, 07:13 PM
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Komodo/Judo = CPU
Basilisk/Wani = APU
Kryptos/Cipher = GPU

Playstation 4 = Orbis (SoC), Jaguar (CPU), Thebes (GPU)
Xbox One = Oban (SoC), Jaguar (CPU), Kryptos (GPU)
I don't know but there's another codename Liverpool for the PS4 integrated GPU. :/

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Old 12-25-2013, 07:31 PM
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I don't know but there's another codename Liverpool for the PS4 integrated GPU. :/
The Liverpool APU was the cancelled Steamroller Rev A+Sea Islands APU. It was replaced by Jaguar+Thebes(which is Southern Islands with Sea Island functionality).

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Well given that SoC's are highly integrated parts, but have generally fewer I/O options than CPU/APU + southbridge, it makes them more suitable for markets like mobile and embedded.

That's why i was asking if it didn'd make more sense to develop these Berlin/Toronto alongside the mobile products roadmap, but without the TDP constrain.

This would allow binning the chips and give AMD a line of SoC's for laptops, and embedded market, sharing the development cost and risk. In my POV it's a win-win.

From the embedded products roadmap announced this year, only the "Steamroller" based "Bald Eagle" isn't a SoC, but their TDP put's them in the same 17-35w of the mobile parts (at least for Trinity/Richland).

EDIT: i just don't know wich process they would be using and if it would allow either lower consumption or higher frequencies, and how high they could go.

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Do we know any big x86 core codename after XV?
Whisper has it that it has three letters starting with the last letter. A side note for codename matchers is that Llano's IGPU was codenamed Sumo in silicon, which is sort of a friend of Judo. Meanwhile, AMD gives those IGPU some other marketing names, such as Devastator, Beavercreek and Winterpark.

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From the embedded products roadmap announced this year, only the "Steamroller" based "Bald Eagle" isn't a SoC, but their TDP put's them in the same 17-35w of the mobile parts (at least for Trinity/Richland).
So the corresponding product should be Berlin, i.e. Kaveri.

Kaveri will also have a notebook version that has a TDP of 17-35W, in socketed version or BGA version, just like Trinity. Remember LV and ULV Trinity that comes in BGA package? I don't think that would change with Kaveri, given AMD was reinstating their desktop infrastructure commitment earlier this year, and even planning socketed versions of Kabini.

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So the corresponding product should be Berlin, i.e. Kaveri.

Kaveri will also have a notebook version that has a TDP of 17-35W, in socketed version or BGA version, just like Trinity. Remember LV and ULV Trinity that comes in BGA package? I don't think that would change with Kaveri, given AMD was reinstating their desktop infrastructure commitment earlier this year, and even planning socketed versions of Kabini.
Perhaps that "integrated" FCH for Toronto would be package-level integration via MCM. Either it is considered a complete SoC with just integrated fabric controller without all common I/Os in the FCH chips in the market, given the whole microserver paradigm. Storage clusters are enabled by Seattle/Cambridge with its claimed high number of storage ports.

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I don't think that would be the case given the implementation on Temash and Kabini.

And no, Toronto and Berlin doesn't have the Freedom fabric controller integrated, only the ARM-based ones have Freedom ASIC integrated, coupled with 10 GbE PHY and the high number of storage ports, and ARM TrustZone implementation.

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It looks wccftech has taken credit for the work of the OP:

http://wccftech.com/amd-opteron-road...ds-gpu-fusion/

I posted what the OP found out on two forums,crediting SA forums for it and yet wccftech could not do that.

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I used to visit that site somewhat frequently because they seemed to have a lot of exclusive information. I quickly realized they were ripping off just about everything, mostly from videocardz.com, I think.
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I used to visit that site somewhat frequently because they seemed to have a lot of exclusive information. I quickly realized they were ripping off just about everything, mostly from videocardz.com, I think.
Nice find btw ptmd
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