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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkadrel View Post
    HOLY F.... .SH*T!

    580 is a homerun!


    I wonder what cayman is gonna be like... I wasnt expecting the 580 to be that much better than the 480. I dont think Cayman is gonna take the performance crown anymore.
    It seems like a good card - it's just way to expensive for the performance it delivers (just like HD5970, btw).

    And the performance overview actually says GTX580 is ~10% faster than 480 across all resolutions, and ~15% faster @ very high res.

    That's good (especially given that power consumption was slightly reduced) - but I certainly wouldn't call it a "homerun"

    Wait for Cayman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunt View Post
    You saw the price/perf charts, right?
    It's bogus because:

    A ? Old ATI drivers
    B ? It assumes a price of $580 for the HD 5970 when it actually costs $470 after MIR: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-887-_-Product

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRoland View Post
    Review on TPU up: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/N...GTX_580/1.html

    10-20% faster than 480, about equal with 5970, though the performance of the latter varies wildly by game. 10% or so lower power than 480 and better idle, but still not quite at Ati level.

    Edit: too slow...
    Looks like a decent offering. Am a bit surprised it got a 9 considering the poor performance/$ they showed though. Am SOOO looking forward to see the 6970 go up against it. I think it will be a tight match-up (and hoping 6970 will edge it out at a lower price)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexko View Post
    It's bogus because:

    A ? Old ATI drivers
    They used 10.7 for 5000 series, which may affect 5970, but shouldn't affect the rest much. Better than I feared... We'll probably still see many reviews with 9.x drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRoland View Post
    Yeah, but *all* high end cards suck at that. Being of similar size, they can probably sell a 580 at the same price as 480 if/when they want/need to.
    ... then AMD can sell HD6970 at around the same price as GTX460 if/when they want/need to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunt View Post
    ... then AMD can sell HD6970 at around the same price as GTX460 if/when they wan/need to
    Exactly my point: that graph tells us little about how prices will change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunt View Post
    You saw the price/perf charts, right?
    OMG yes! I'm going to pimp out a rig with some SLI'd GTS 250s ASAP!

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    Since people perfer singel gpu > dual, cuz of driver issues ect.
    I dont see the 5970 selling for more than a 580 costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexko View Post
    It's bogus because:

    A ? Old ATI drivers
    B ? It assumes a price of $580 for the HD 5970 when it actually costs $470 after MIR: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-887-_-Product
    That's why I didn't compare Nvidia to AMD (GTX580 vs. HD5970), but Nvidia to Nvidia (GTX580 vs. GTX 480).

    People will realize GTX580 is no homerun soon enough.

    Let's just say that it's very unlikely that AMD's perf/mm? ratio will decrease with Cayman - and Barts is a ~ 250mm? chip ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRoland View Post
    They used 10.7 for 5000 series, which may affect 5970, but shouldn't affect the rest much. Better than I feared... We'll probably still see many reviews with 9.x drivers.
    The majority of the tests end up over 100fps where AMD doesn't bother optimizing the 5970 very much. There would be no point. Those tests skew the results towards the 580. It really isn't very close in most tests where it matters. The 5970 doesn't look to have its crossfire profiles updated.

    Reasonable improvement. The power is still too high. It'll still be clobbered by a couple of 6870s for less bucks.
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