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    With the all the speculation of either ARM or Tilera powering the next generation cloud of Companies like; Google, Facebook and Amazon. Why is there no Discussion of MIPS64 doing the same.

    ARM has yet to release a 64 Bit ISA they seem to be content to let someone else do it. Meanwhile MIPS64 will turn 20 years in October, and now MIPS just announced a new Multi Threaded 64 bit Core. There first new 64bit core in Several Years.

    It seems to me that the next Generation cloud machines will need 64 bit Processing. MIPS32 having reached Parity with ARM in Coremark in terms performance per watt. The Market looks Ripe for MIPS64 "Prodigy" coming to a energy efficient datacenter near you.

    Yet there was Zero Coverage of the MIPS Announcement on S/A. What gives?

    I wonder what the rest of the world thinks: Is that new MIPS Core Announcement significant?

    Sure the MIPS on Android seems freakish...but I wonder if that isn't really destined for Google TV since MIPS owns the existing setup box market. Ingenic seems the only one interested in bringing a MIPS SoC to Android phones.

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    I wish MIPS go for the cellphone market, we need more competition in this area.

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    First, no one from MIPS told me about it, and once the story is everywhere, I am not going to be the last to re-write the press release.

    -Charlie

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwho? View Post
    I wish MIPS go for the cellphone market, we need more competition in this area.
    Do you have a cell phone on the market? Is Intel even in that market any more?

    -Charlie

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie View Post
    Do you have a cell phone on the market? Is Intel even in that market any more?

    -Charlie
    working hard on it ... This is when it is hard that you have the most exciting/challenging times, every time People counted intel down, they got surprised. I still remember your face at spring IDF, when I showed you that Core 2 was beating FX51 by more than 40%, the very 1st time a Core 2 number was shown, fun times! the result of the all company questioning itself about our ways ... it worked.
    I am having fun in this area, The setup box market is already moving to x86 (Freebox and co) , now, time to go to the lower power market, challenging, ARM people are smart, TI, Quadcomm and co are smart, This is what make it interesting to me, how can you do something that leap frog them ... how can you move further than they are.

    I love those challenges, and if MIPS is in the market, even better. This is when Intel people are challenged the most that they are the best, I am proud of what's coming, give us a fair chance, and you ll be surprise.
    Technology battles are what I love doing the most. Time will tell, it is going to be hard and painfull, but we never give up, I will keep trying, as long as it is not the best solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwho? View Post
    working hard on it ... This is when it is hard that you have the most exciting/challenging times, every time People counted intel down, they got surprised. I still remember your face at spring IDF, when I showed you that Core 2 was beating FX51 by more than 40%, the very 1st time a Core 2 number was shown, fun times! the result of the all company questioning itself about our ways ... it worked.
    I am having fun in this area, The setup box market is already moving to x86 (Freebox and co) , now, time to go to the lower power market, challenging, ARM people are smart, TI, Quadcomm and co are smart, This is what make it interesting to me, how can you do something that leap frog them ... how can you move further than they are.

    I love those challenges, and if MIPS is in the market, even better. This is when Intel people are challenged the most that they are the best, I am proud of what's coming, give us a fair chance, and you ll be surprise.
    Technology battles are what I love doing the most. Time will tell, it is going to be hard and painfull, but we never give up, I will keep trying, as long as it is not the best solution.
    So this post clearly reads as an official Intel position. Are you speaking as Intel representative? Yet another bash of AMD product as official Intel employee it seems.
    What you talkin bout Willis?

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    Sure sounds like an official Intel statement to me. All this "we", "Intel people", "us" stuff. talking about taking over more markets. Yep, pure Intel spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by APU_Fusion View Post
    So this post clearly reads as an official Intel position. Are you speaking as Intel representative? Yet another bash of AMD product as official Intel employee it seems.
    no ... I am describing my personal experience, and what I am going through right now, I am not representing intel in anyway here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwho? View Post
    no ... I am describing my personal experience, and what I am going through right now, I am not representing intel in anyway here.
    OK .. your post just sounded like it was the gloating of Intel Employee and not personal fanboi lol although seeing that Core 2 smoke FX after years of being beaten must have been gratifying. There is nothing better than first building blazing fast new computer .. mmm .. Wait .. what were we talking about?
    What you talkin bout Willis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ir-Kingu View Post
    With the all the speculation of either ARM or Tilera powering the next generation cloud of Companies like; Google, Facebook and Amazon. Why is there no Discussion of MIPS64 doing the same.

    ARM has yet to release a 64 Bit ISA they seem to be content to let someone else do it. Meanwhile MIPS64 will turn 20 years in October, and now MIPS just announced a new Multi Threaded 64 bit Core. There first new 64bit core in Several Years.

    It seems to me that the next Generation cloud machines will need 64 bit Processing. MIPS32 having reached Parity with ARM in Coremark in terms performance per watt. The Market looks Ripe for MIPS64 "Prodigy" coming to a energy efficient datacenter near you.

    Yet there was Zero Coverage of the MIPS Announcement on S/A. What gives?

    I wonder what the rest of the world thinks: Is that new MIPS Core Announcement significant?

    Sure the MIPS on Android seems freakish...but I wonder if that isn't really destined for Google TV since MIPS owns the existing setup box market. Ingenic seems the only one interested in bringing a MIPS SoC to Android phones.
    I personally think that aside from some specialised cases (see Tilera, the odd atom/arm box, and the high RAS market) non x86 doesn't make sense as the tools just aren't there to support it. People hark and cry for 64 bit ARM being all they need to get into the server world due to their awesome perf/watt. I disagree, as shown by MIPS64 being around for 20 odd years and not really being there (I think it may be in the high RAS areas though, with Power and I guess random other RISC cores).

    x86, terrible as it is as an ISA (honestly like 5 registers or something?) has the tools and the install base to keep itself going for the most part. It also has the market share to have the expensive features required on board. I don't know all of what is required for a server board but to them in your Chip you need to make sure it is going to make it back for you. Trying to create a beach head into this market will require some serious capital expenditure, and the knowledge that you will get the market share to make it back.
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