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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartak View Post
    But they won't necessarily make it public. They still make minor changes, like a controller sourced from other manufacturer, which could prevent full compatibility
    Possibly, but unlikely. If you're talking memory controller it's inside the APU anyway. Nothing to do with the motherboard. That's just tracks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartak View Post
    But they won't necessarily make it public. They still make minor changes, like a controller sourced from other manufacturer, which could prevent full compatibility
    So there will never be BIOS updates released to the public after Trinity? Think about what you are saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boom View Post
    So there will never be BIOS updates released to the public after Trinity? Think about what you are saying.
    of course there will be, but for the new models, not with the Trinity.
    In contrast to desktop mobos, where upgradability is significant competition advantage, or better said the lack thereof is signifacant disadvantage, upgrading a laptop is not very common. So why shoukld OEMs waste their resources to enable an upgrade for a diminishing amount of people? They want you to purchase a new notebook if you need a better one, not upgrade which brings them no money
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartak View Post
    of course there will be, but for the new models, not with the Trinity.
    We'll have to wait and see I guess. My bet is the motherboards used in both will be identical both physically and electronically. So getting hold of a bios update will be a simple matter of getting hold of one for a 'new' model and applying it to an 'old' one.

    Btw- There are bios tools that will happily ignore any of that pesky OEM warning stuff about 'Bios not for this model' etc. So they can't really prevent people from doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuckey View Post
    We'll have to wait and see I guess. My bet is the motherboards used in both will be identical both physically and electronically. So getting hold of a bios update will be a simple matter of getting hold of one for a 'new' model and applying it to an 'old' one.

    Btw- There are bios tools that will happily ignore any of that pesky OEM warning stuff about 'Bios not for this model' etc. So they can't really prevent people from doing it.
    I believe this is the only chance, but a minor change like replacment of a network controller could ruin compatibilty, from making that particular component non functional to the whole laptop unusable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartak View Post
    I believe this is the only chance, but a minor change like replacment of a network controller could ruin compatibilty, from making that particular component non functional to the whole laptop unusable.
    But why would an OEM change that for a model currently being sold?

    "This CPU can drop in with a BIOS update. Let's change X,Y, and Z to drive up costs on these AMD models we don't sell a lot of."

    It just doesn't make sense for models currently out there. If you have a discontinued Trinity model, you are most likely screwed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boom View Post
    But why would an OEM change that for a model currently being sold?

    "This CPU can drop in with a BIOS update. Let's change X,Y, and Z to drive up costs on these AMD models we don't sell a lot of."

    It just doesn't make sense for models currently out there. If you have a discontinued Trinity model, you are most likely screwed.
    I never said they will do it. Likely not.
    But it still possible for reason like cheaper controller or in opposite better controller. or even both
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    http://wccftech.com/amd-apu-performa...i-apus-leaked/

    ITS OBR so take it with a metric ton of salt

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeldarthX View Post
    http://wccftech.com/amd-apu-performa...i-apus-leaked/

    ITS OBR so take it with a metric ton of salt
    Salt duly ingested. But interesting nonetheless. Thanks.

    Just wish they'd specify what memory was used. As it's a pretty meaningless comparison without.
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    I'm thinking 1866 as that's official but we don't know hehe.

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